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		<title>By: DIY Closets?</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalsanctuary.com/blog/life-skills/i-built-a-new-closet.html/comment-page-1#comment-5806</link>
		<dc:creator>DIY Closets?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can add your own basic wood shelves, build a custom wood closet from scratch, install wire closets, hang “track” products where you simply hang vertical strips and clip on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalsanctuary.com/blog/life-skills/i-built-a-new-closet.html/comment-page-1#comment-4326</link>
		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closet is holding up great!  I just used sheetrock screws:)  The one thing I figured out 1/2 way through, and wish I&#039;d started with it first is to pre-drill holes for the screw heads to sink into the wood below the surface so they can be seamlessly puttied over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closet is holding up great!  I just used sheetrock screws:)  The one thing I figured out 1/2 way through, and wish I&#8217;d started with it first is to pre-drill holes for the screw heads to sink into the wood below the surface so they can be seamlessly puttied over.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Payette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Payette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, it looks like it&#039;s been a little over a year since you built your closet. (Nice, by the way.)

How&#039;s it holding up? Any issues or things you might have done differently in hind-sight?

Also wondering what you used to tie the materials together? Any chance it was the Kreg Pocket Hole system? If not, next time gotta try that.

Good luck. 

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, it looks like it&#8217;s been a little over a year since you built your closet. (Nice, by the way.)</p>
<p>How&#8217;s it holding up? Any issues or things you might have done differently in hind-sight?</p>
<p>Also wondering what you used to tie the materials together? Any chance it was the Kreg Pocket Hole system? If not, next time gotta try that.</p>
<p>Good luck. </p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: closet designer</title>
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		<dc:creator>closet designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did a really nice job and I like the maple veneer instead of the usual &quot;do it yourself&quot; materials out there. I design closets but would never try to install them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did a really nice job and I like the maple veneer instead of the usual &#8220;do it yourself&#8221; materials out there. I design closets but would never try to install them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you posted a picture of this. I&#039;ve been searching for designs for our closet since the wire racks have fallen once again. This is just about perfect for what I&#039;m going to do. Good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you posted a picture of this. I&#8217;ve been searching for designs for our closet since the wire racks have fallen once again. This is just about perfect for what I&#8217;m going to do. Good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw -  Nice closet Devon !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw &#8211;  Nice closet Devon !</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome!  So far the closet I made is working out great!  It holds more stuff than our old one is just great!  I should get some pictures of it all full of clothes and shoes.  

Best of luck with your daughter&#039;s closet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!  So far the closet I made is working out great!  It holds more stuff than our old one is just great!  I should get some pictures of it all full of clothes and shoes.  </p>
<p>Best of luck with your daughter&#8217;s closet!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one closet done by California Closets and another one done by a carpenter. The CC closet looks nice aesthetically and is fuctional but I would NOT repeat a job with them for the following reasons: 

 - They use particle board of a quality similar to the boards found cheaply at Home Depot. Particle board is what is swept up off the floor when wood workers are working on REAL wood. It is a cheap by product. A subsititute that has been sold to many people as the best thing around when in reality there is nothing like Real Solid Wood.
- Paper thin layer of melamine is prone to damage each time you unscrew shelf holder or screws to relocate a shelf. The melamine is applied industrially by machine and the shelf edges are IRONED on. Again, this is bottom of the barrel construction.
- Don&#039;t even think about having the CC closet exposed to water or a high moisture environment. You will end up with a closet ffull of mold and sagging cardboard.
- Yes - I also hated the pre-drilled holes from top to bottom of both sides of the cheap vertical panels that hold the shelves.
- Yes - They use cheap metal pegs to hold the shelves which result in the shelves shifting slightly evertime you place or remove an object. Not to mention that once in a while the entire shelf just drops out. They should have provided grooves to fix the shelves and prevent this. Poor design.
- The CC closets DO NOT include a back covering so you better make sure the walls are in pristine condition and painted prior to installation. You will see the walls in the background. Painting after the fact is a challenge. My advice - Use satin paint to allow for easy wipe cleanup over the years. 
- I noticed that because the CC closets are made of particle board they design the systems in such a way that they raise the entire closet ensamble up off the floor by at least 6 inches. I assumed this was to prevent possible water damage. You lose an awful lotta space in this little hidden design feature that they use. 
- CC closets are pre-designed. In other words all they do is cut it to fit you needs. They will not do extra wide or deep shelves. they so not do corners efficiently since everything is square. No L-shapes here.
 - There is no doubt in my mind that they are way overpriced. You are basically paying for the custom fit/design and installation. Material costs are dirt cheap when you use particle board laminated with a paper thin layer of melamine. I cannot even begin to  imagine the profit they made on a $3000 walk-in closet of simple shelving. By the way, this was my wifes project and she covered the costs so it was less painful to me.
- At the end of the installation, my CC closet smelled like plastic and glue. No wood smell whatsoever. 

The Carpenter Made Closet was at a much more reasonable price when you value actual work by a human being versus that of a machine. It was far superior in materials. And the closet smelled like wood......ahhhhh. The Carpenter Made Closet had fine finishing details with solid non-shifting shelves, integrated L-shapes in the corners, etc. 

My next closet (my daughters) will be MY DIY Project...wish me luck....

I&#039;ll post some pics of all three next time round...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one closet done by California Closets and another one done by a carpenter. The CC closet looks nice aesthetically and is fuctional but I would NOT repeat a job with them for the following reasons: </p>
<p> &#8211; They use particle board of a quality similar to the boards found cheaply at Home Depot. Particle board is what is swept up off the floor when wood workers are working on REAL wood. It is a cheap by product. A subsititute that has been sold to many people as the best thing around when in reality there is nothing like Real Solid Wood.<br />
- Paper thin layer of melamine is prone to damage each time you unscrew shelf holder or screws to relocate a shelf. The melamine is applied industrially by machine and the shelf edges are IRONED on. Again, this is bottom of the barrel construction.<br />
- Don&#8217;t even think about having the CC closet exposed to water or a high moisture environment. You will end up with a closet ffull of mold and sagging cardboard.<br />
- Yes &#8211; I also hated the pre-drilled holes from top to bottom of both sides of the cheap vertical panels that hold the shelves.<br />
- Yes &#8211; They use cheap metal pegs to hold the shelves which result in the shelves shifting slightly evertime you place or remove an object. Not to mention that once in a while the entire shelf just drops out. They should have provided grooves to fix the shelves and prevent this. Poor design.<br />
- The CC closets DO NOT include a back covering so you better make sure the walls are in pristine condition and painted prior to installation. You will see the walls in the background. Painting after the fact is a challenge. My advice &#8211; Use satin paint to allow for easy wipe cleanup over the years.<br />
- I noticed that because the CC closets are made of particle board they design the systems in such a way that they raise the entire closet ensamble up off the floor by at least 6 inches. I assumed this was to prevent possible water damage. You lose an awful lotta space in this little hidden design feature that they use.<br />
- CC closets are pre-designed. In other words all they do is cut it to fit you needs. They will not do extra wide or deep shelves. they so not do corners efficiently since everything is square. No L-shapes here.<br />
 &#8211; There is no doubt in my mind that they are way overpriced. You are basically paying for the custom fit/design and installation. Material costs are dirt cheap when you use particle board laminated with a paper thin layer of melamine. I cannot even begin to  imagine the profit they made on a $3000 walk-in closet of simple shelving. By the way, this was my wifes project and she covered the costs so it was less painful to me.<br />
- At the end of the installation, my CC closet smelled like plastic and glue. No wood smell whatsoever. </p>
<p>The Carpenter Made Closet was at a much more reasonable price when you value actual work by a human being versus that of a machine. It was far superior in materials. And the closet smelled like wood&#8230;&#8230;ahhhhh. The Carpenter Made Closet had fine finishing details with solid non-shifting shelves, integrated L-shapes in the corners, etc. </p>
<p>My next closet (my daughters) will be MY DIY Project&#8230;wish me luck&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post some pics of all three next time round&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome job Devon! This is gonna be perfect for us &amp; its so nice and open now.

Yeah, one of the reasons why we decided to do it ourselves is because we weren&#039;t super impressed with CC&#039;s design. It felt really cramped, and they added a bunch of stuff that we didn&#039;t have much use for. (in addition to the cost being jawdroppingly expensive for inferior materials). I&#039;m all about paying more for high quality stuff, but I think we got a way better closet DIYing. Also, the comment from BW really makes me think twice about California Closet&#039;s &quot;marketing tactics&quot;. If that&#039;s how they operate, I really have no interest in ever giving them any business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome job Devon! This is gonna be perfect for us &amp; its so nice and open now.</p>
<p>Yeah, one of the reasons why we decided to do it ourselves is because we weren&#8217;t super impressed with CC&#8217;s design. It felt really cramped, and they added a bunch of stuff that we didn&#8217;t have much use for. (in addition to the cost being jawdroppingly expensive for inferior materials). I&#8217;m all about paying more for high quality stuff, but I think we got a way better closet DIYing. Also, the comment from BW really makes me think twice about California Closet&#8217;s &#8220;marketing tactics&#8221;. If that&#8217;s how they operate, I really have no interest in ever giving them any business.</p>
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		<title>By: jasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am inordinately impressed by your Closet Construction abilities.  I think that paying 8 grand for a pre-fab closet system, made from inferior material would be stupid since you obviously have the capabilities to do it yourself.  Additionally, I think that the fact that the first response to your blog is negative, and obviously from someone in the employ of California Closets, is just pathetic.  There are hundreds (thousands?) of people who need the services of companies such as that, you, however are not one.  Great Job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am inordinately impressed by your Closet Construction abilities.  I think that paying 8 grand for a pre-fab closet system, made from inferior material would be stupid since you obviously have the capabilities to do it yourself.  Additionally, I think that the fact that the first response to your blog is negative, and obviously from someone in the employ of California Closets, is just pathetic.  There are hundreds (thousands?) of people who need the services of companies such as that, you, however are not one.  Great Job!</p>
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